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The Arts and Entertainment Work Group is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.


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  • John_Buscema: There's a debate between the current version and this version - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Buscema&oldid=181851662 - requesting input to arrive at a consensus integrating both versions.
  • Pierce O'DonnellCalifornia's 22nd congressional district candidate[1] Los Angeles lawyer Buchwald v. Paramount screenwriter [2] author ISBN 1-56584-958-2 ISBN 0-385-41686-5 [3] California Fair Political Practices Commission[4][5][6][7]
  • William Ely Hill (1887-1962) - Illustrator, created artwork for the book covers for F. Scott Fitzgerald and had a regular entry in the New York tribune along with being published on numerous occasions.
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The general outline and collection has been started, but if you would like to expand and organize a discipline, here's what you do. Right below the page heading for the discipline insert this: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Work groups/Division banner}} and save. This will put a rough outline together for you and then you can edit it to conform to your area. See Writers and critics below for an example. If your project grows large enough where it's taking up a good portion of this page, you should probably move it to a subpage of this page.

You might also want to make a Members section for people to join your specific area!

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  1. I am ready to work on the biography articles of Indian or Biography actors Jogesh 69 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  2. come help with the Bronwen Mantel article Smith Jones 22:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Lovelaughterlife (talk · contribs) Worked extensively on some biographies; reverted vandalism some others
  4. Francoisalex2 (talk · contribs)
  5. Dovebyrd (talk · contribs)
  6. Artventure22 (talk · contribs)
  7. Truth in Comedy (talk · contribs)
  8. Warlordjohncarter (talk · contribs)
  9. DENAMAX (talk · contribs) Maxim Stoyalov
  10. Ozgod (talk · contribs)
  11. Eremeyv (talk · contribs)
  12. Susanlesch (talk · contribs), mostly inactive
  13. EraserGirl (talk) 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Shruti14 (talk · contribs) will help when I can
  15. Jubileeclipman (talk · contribs) I am interested in taking on UK celebrities with articles that are stubs or otherwise non-standard. Entirely rewrote Fearne Cotton to raise standard and remove fansite tag. I am working on Holly Willoughby which was merely a list plus trivia. Will also work on musicians, all genre, living or dead.
  16. Jarhed (talk · contribs) 21:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  27. Terasaface (talk) 03:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC) Working on BLP of artists primarily working in the fields of Studio craft[reply]
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  29. Yorubaja (talk · contribs) 14:23:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC) [reply]
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Kyra Belan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of an artist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NARTIST. The attempted notability claim here is that her art has been exhibited, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- notability on that basis doesn't derive from the list of gallery shows, it derives from the use of reliable source coverage and analysis about the gallery shows, such as reviews of her shows by professional art critics in newspapers or magazines or books to establish that the shows were seen as significant by somebody other than her own public relations agent. But this is referenced entirely to sources self-published by Belan herself and/or the affiliated galleries, with absolutely not one reliable or GNG-building source shown at all.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much better access than I've got to archived US media coverage can find more than I've been able to, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. She has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. I am finding no reviews for the books listed. Looks like a genuine misunderstanding. Please note every Women in Red list created from wikidata states "This list of red links is intended to serve as a basis for creating new articles on the English Wikipedia. Please note however that the red links on this list may well not be suitable as the basis for an article. All new articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria with reliable independent sources." --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is bordering a speedy delete for being an online CV/Resume. However, now that AfD is already in progress, it's a classic GNG fail. Graywalls (talk) 04:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dan Ouellette (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of Notability as proposed by another user. Creating discussion here Dac04 (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://web.archive.org/web/20111014225118/http://beinart.org/artists/dan-ouellette/gallery/drawings/ ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed out ? Unknown
https://web.archive.org/web/20110221102515/http://djangomedia.com/directors/Dan-Ouellette ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed out ? Unknown
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Ouellette/author/B004LQTKNC?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true No No No Amazon listing of books. No reason to infer notability No
https://web.archive.org/web/20110808001228/http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/cyberpunk-art/spotlight-the-art-of-dan-ouellette/ ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed ou ? Unknown
https://www.instagram.com/artist.a.day/ No No No no mention of Dan Ouellette on this generic Instagram page No
https://filmmakermagazine.com/53187-dreams-from-a-petrified-head-director-dan-ouellette/ No ? sub-page of "The Gotham" No interview No
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Dan Ouellette

Julia Kunin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only trivial, interviews, etc with no deep real media focus on the Julia. The best piece from ARTnews has this:

  • “Clay,” she says, “gives me the freedom to create something intense, raw, over the top. It has allowed me to pile things up, break things down, play, and make mistakes.” Kunin loves the immediacy of a material that is “as basic as mud,” she points out. “I am addicted to the unpredictability and iridescence of the glazes I’m using as well as the range of their colors and their psychedelic qualities.”
  • Kunin grew up in Vermont in the ‘70s..... Later, she says, she rejected clay as a dull brown “craft” material but returned to it in 2003. She started exploring female sexuality and the body and began using octopuses for more metaphorical imagery. Frustrated by a series in cast glass, “I happened on an exhibit by the Chinese artist Ah Xian, who creates busts painted in traditional Chinese porcelain patterns from Jingdezhen, China. That initial spark of an idea has kept me going now for ten years.” Qab Bi Av (talk) 14:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Women, Visual arts, New York, and Vermont. Skynxnex (talk) 14:11, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: She has a listing in the Getty Ulan, [8] and is covered [9] and [10]. Oaktree b (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have removed multiple embedded links. I will go back to check the sourcing on some of the claims. Seems to be drawn from non-primary sources for bio and CV type material. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. User:Qab Bi Av, as I noted on your other recent nomination, please review the guidelines at WP:BEFORE - before nominating an article for deletion, you should not just check the current sources but also "search for additional sources, if the main concern is notability" and "try first raising your concerns on the article's talk page". I looked her up, found several additional sources, and added them to the article. WP:ARTIST is the relevant notability guideline, and as far as I can tell, she qualifies including under the criteria of "won significant critical attention". Dreamyshade (talk) 16:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:HEY. Based on her competitive residencies and grants (see Yaddo and Fulbright Scholarship), and works exhibited at the center of the North American art world, she easily passes WP:NARTIST. Bearian (talk) 02:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics

The Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

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Marek Kukula (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It has been six years since the Daily Mail reported that this man had been found guilty of producing indecent images of children (for those who don't know, in English law, downloading is treated as production). SandrineWiki (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

< Multiple violations of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy (unsourced speculation about a living individual) redacted AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC) >[reply]

It is curious that, as far as I know, the man himself has not requested his Wikipedia biography be removed. Perhaps he is unaware he has that right. Or perhaps he sees a benefit in it continuing to be the top result on Google for his name? SandrineWiki (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The general disclaimer is quite irrelevant in situations where sufficient information exists on which to make an informed judgment consistent with the values of Wikipedia (and one assumes protection of minors is one such value). If there is no actual Wikipedia policy that says <redacted AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC) > should be considered for deletion with a full and thorough debate of the facts, I would be quite surprised.[reply]

Jessica Reed Kraus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. This is also a second nomination. You might want to want check here [11] Ibjaja055 (talk) 06:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Hennessey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability. The only reference in the article is Business Insider profile for Everspark, the company he founded. That source however, is just a blurb from Everspark itself. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Everspark. Whpq (talk) 03:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Rosen (writer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot find much anything notable in google search. The current sourcing on article is shakey and not WP:RELIABLE as well. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I, Robert Rosen, may say a few words in defense of the significance of my work and the especially puzzling idea that nothing notable comes up in a Google search:
What follows is a sample. There's plenty more, which I can send on request. But I think there's enough here to prove my point.
In the 25 years that I've been publishing books, my work has received coverage in such places as...
The New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/02/nyregion/a-demimonde-in-twilight.html?scp=1&sq=a+demimond+in+twilight&st=cse&pagewanted=all
NBC News:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-lennon-yoko-ono-s-former-palm-beach-estate-listed-n1203626
The Wall Street Journal (paywall):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/john-lennon-and-yoko-onos-onetime-palm-beach-mansion-sells-for-36-million-11604076391
Huffington Post:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/conversation-with-author_b_7498668
and: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rock-n-roll-watergate_b_8634020
and: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/imagine-12-great-books-ab_b_8665582
NY Daily News:
https://www.nydailynews.com/2000/02/18/memory-serves-authors-final-days-of-lennon/
CNBC:
https://www.cnbc.com/2013/07/24/no-porn-please-were-british.html
Architectural Digest:
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/john-lennon-yoko-ono-former-palm-beach-house-for-sale?fbclid=IwAR1gNv9bdvSQvYIEyTNdCSKgcoeTYRtMydY-7W3an1fZRRIa5PBsa0m3Dgc
The Times of London, not available online, but you can read it here:
https://www.robertrosennyc.com/blog/posts/16846
And such niche publications as Christianity Today:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2001/01/10-best-books-of-2000/
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2000/06/popular-culture-ballad-of-john-and-jesus/
My work has gotten even more extensive coverage throughout the Spanish-speaking world. Here are a few examples:
Spain:
https://www.diariodesevilla.es/ocio/Robert-Rosen-libro-Lennon_0_1870013916.html
https://www.abc.es/cultura/musica/abci-mejores-libros-sobre-vida-y-muerte-john-lennon-202012060122_noticia.html
https://ileon.eldiario.es/cultura/musica-literatura-biografias-imprescindibles_1_9386407.html
https://www.abc.es/cultura/abci-ultimo-capitulo-diarios-john-lennon-201711211203_noticia.html
Mexico:
https://www.proceso.com.mx/cultura/2003/6/23/habla-robert-rosen-autor-de-nowhere-man-john-lennon-en-el-corazon-de-las-tinieblas-77261.html
https://www.proceso.com.mx/cultura/2016/8/25/lennon-al-desnudo-por-su-biografo-robert-rosen-169554.html
https://www.jornada.com.mx/2005/10/09/index.php?section=espectaculos&article=a08n1esp
https://www.jornada.com.mx/2003/05/10/02an1cul.php?origen=index.html&fly=2
Argentina:
https://www.pagina12.com.ar/2000/suple/radar/00-07/00-07-02/nota1.htm
Colombia:
https://www.soho.co/historias/articulo/trabajar-con-john-lennon-por-robert-rosen/2179/
Chile:
https://www.latercera.com/culto/2020/12/08/los-enigmaticos-diarios-intimos-de-john-lennon/
Also in Brazil (Portuguese )
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fol/cult/ult30052000034.htm
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fol/cult/ult30052000038.htm
And France:
https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2000/04/22/87963-la-vie-sulfureuse-de-john-lennon.html
And Italy:
http://www.corriereetrusco.it/2011/12/05/piombino-al-centro-gio-omaggio-al-leader-dei-beatles/
I rest my case--Robert Rosen 2603:7000:3802:27B4:A0CF:E8AB:C126:5BAA (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep not in the greatest shape, but the sources provided above seem to show a pass of WP:NAUTHOR. Not in Google search is a weird statement as well - even if there wasn’t on Google, ProQuest is a necessary search for most authors/literary works and there seems to be a lot about his works on there PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kyra Belan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of an artist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NARTIST. The attempted notability claim here is that her art has been exhibited, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- notability on that basis doesn't derive from the list of gallery shows, it derives from the use of reliable source coverage and analysis about the gallery shows, such as reviews of her shows by professional art critics in newspapers or magazines or books to establish that the shows were seen as significant by somebody other than her own public relations agent. But this is referenced entirely to sources self-published by Belan herself and/or the affiliated galleries, with absolutely not one reliable or GNG-building source shown at all.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much better access than I've got to archived US media coverage can find more than I've been able to, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. She has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. I am finding no reviews for the books listed. Looks like a genuine misunderstanding. Please note every Women in Red list created from wikidata states "This list of red links is intended to serve as a basis for creating new articles on the English Wikipedia. Please note however that the red links on this list may well not be suitable as the basis for an article. All new articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria with reliable independent sources." --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is bordering a speedy delete for being an online CV/Resume. However, now that AfD is already in progress, it's a classic GNG fail. Graywalls (talk) 04:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dan Ouellette (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of Notability as proposed by another user. Creating discussion here Dac04 (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://web.archive.org/web/20111014225118/http://beinart.org/artists/dan-ouellette/gallery/drawings/ ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed out ? Unknown
https://web.archive.org/web/20110221102515/http://djangomedia.com/directors/Dan-Ouellette ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed out ? Unknown
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Ouellette/author/B004LQTKNC?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true No No No Amazon listing of books. No reason to infer notability No
https://web.archive.org/web/20110808001228/http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/cyberpunk-art/spotlight-the-art-of-dan-ouellette/ ? ? ? unable to reach archived page. Connection timed ou ? Unknown
https://www.instagram.com/artist.a.day/ No No No no mention of Dan Ouellette on this generic Instagram page No
https://filmmakermagazine.com/53187-dreams-from-a-petrified-head-director-dan-ouellette/ No ? sub-page of "The Gotham" No interview No
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Dan Ouellette

Nick Sullivan (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Something is going on with Sullivans notability; either he's barely notable, or he's not notable at all. The sources in the article are questionable at best, the sources found on Google/DuckDuckGo similarly leave something to be desired. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Mixon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article subject fails to meet WP:NAUTHOR. A search for information on the subject, or his books, shows minimal results and no noteworthy reviews or coverage, failing WP:SIGCOV. The tone is overall promotional and relies entirely on primary sources. Vegantics (talk) 14:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kingsley Okonkwo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An article about a "family life and relationship coach, TV personality, and author" sourced entirely to shady pieces. While most of the publications are reliable on their own, the pieces sourced to are either unreliable, of the subject's opinion, run of the mill coverages or vanispamcruft. It's either the subject is publishing their opinion or it's an unreliable "things you need to know about X" piece. Nothing to confer inherent notability here either. Fails WP:GNG over all. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Halliday (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject of article is not notable, sources cited show that they were sent to jail for a contempt of court charge and a misdemeanor picketing charge. Article is very WP:PROMO and not WP:NPOV. I did WP:BEFORE and he mentioned briefly in a three books one of them is a published that only publishes material on veganism and animal rights. The mentions were not in-depth from what I could tell. There is a section about his writing but none of the material would qualify under WP:NAUTHOR Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also article was PRODed so that's why I brought it here to AfD. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AnimalRightsArchivist if you think there are some materials that are offline that would be helpful we could also send this article to draft which would give you some time to gather everything needed. For example I use the Internet Archive for a lot of sourcing but it's been offline for a few days, but you also might know of sources in magazines or books that aren't available online. I know that some of the books I noticed his name in were from really small presses so they might not have everything scanned online. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for linking us together @Czar. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Akhtar Usman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The BLP was created in the main namespace and later draftified by Maliner. The creator then submitted it for review, but later unilaterally moved the BLP back to the main namespace, to avoid AFC review process. So I feel compelled to take this to AFD so the community can decide whether it should remain or be deleted. IMO, it fails both GNG and NAUTHOR, as none of the works are notable enough. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yusra Amjad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is an interview, and this is a one-line coverage. There are a few other mentions and self-authored articles, but there is no independent coverage about her. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 19:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daisuke Tsuda (YouTuber) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NPEOPLE Paradoctor (talk) 07:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Harrison (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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As much as I think Harrison's writing about Wikipedia is insightful, I simply don't think he passes WP:NJOURNALIST. He's not really been the subject of significant coverage. I don't think interviews or reviews of his books in student newspapers (Student Life) are sigcov. The Fix interview might be significant coverage, but I am unfamiliar with the publication. 1A is a podcast interview, which I don't think counts for notability. The Salon, Slate and HuffPost links are just to his journalism and obviously don't count. The New America link is the description of an event that Harrison was participating in, and I don't think its sigcov either. The WashU entry is a "look what one of our alumni is up to" post and therefore it's not independent or sigcov. The Yahoo interview is part of the Yahoo for Creators program, which has an unclear level of editorial control from Yahoo itself, and may be published with little editorial oversight like WP:FORBESCON, but I'm not sure, and I think its status as significant coverage is questionable. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of mahoran writers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreliable sources, and nearly all of the individuals on this list are not notable. Plasticwonder (talk) 20:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yihua Zheng (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing to indicate that WP:NPROF is met, nor WP:BASIC. A WP:BEFORE search yielded nothing. Was draftified for a chance to develop it, but instead it was moved back to mainspace with no changes. bonadea contributions talk 17:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Childs (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:BASIC. The New York Times source, a book review, is the only secondary and independent source and it doesn't quite show notability for the book – and not at all for its author. bonadea contributions talk 17:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Connolly (Canadian film director) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker, not properly referencing any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers. The attempted notability claim here is that his work exists, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- we would need to see some evidence of distinction, such as notable awards and/or WP:GNG-worthy coverage and analysis about him and his work in media and/or books. But this is referenced entirely to primary sources self-published by people or organizations directly affiliated with the statements they're referencing, which is not support for notability, and the article claims absolutely nothing about him that would be "inherently" notable without better sourcing for it than this.
Further, there are no inbound links here from any other page in Wikipedia but the disambiguation page at Bob Connolly, and this appears to be a conflict of interest as the creator (who created it in 2013 and has occasionally returned to edit the article as recently as August 2024) appears to have self-identified as Bob Connolly in past posts to Talk:Lee Aaron, but even people who do properly pass our notability and sourcing standards still aren't entitled to write or curate their own articles themselves. Bearcat (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Harish S. Mehta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is a WP:PROMO, fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO. WP:NOTRESUME. Charlie (talk) 04:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete fails WP:NBIO, there's no significant coverage about him or his life in the cited sources, most of them infact are about the organisation he founded. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. He co-founded NASSCOM (about which we have an article) with half a dozen or six dozen others. He wrote a book. The book was well received, and we have an article on it. He is apparently a somewhat-known name in India, anyway, but for the purposes of his article, he does not seem to pass GNG, as the coverage I've found tends to be either in-passing mentions or non-independent. The article itself is quite dreadful, as it happens, but it's not worth trying to repair his resumé at his current level of demonstrated notability. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 08:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shalini Govil-Pai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable individual. Refbombed primary sourced spam that screams of UPE. Lacks independent coverage about her. Awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Article can be converted into stub as the profile is notable in terms of a C-tech level Google and Android personnel at a significant position. Chris.lee auth (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC) Note to closing admin: Chris.lee auth (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

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Keep: As can be assessed through the WP:N guidelines and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, these are some major third party reliable platforms that mention Shalini as a potential figure in tech industry.
1.      https://events.variety.com/EntertainmentTechnology/speaker/861637/shalini-govil-pai
2.      https://variety.com/2022/digital/entertainment-industry/ariety-winter-entertainment-summit-industry-future-1235162396/
3.      https://markets.ft.com/data/announce/detail?dockey=1323-16608055-43IJTLORKTH168VQH8G4GJ9HI6
4.      https://www.thewrap.com/ai-debate-thegrill-2024-google-fox-usc/
5.      https://news.engr.psu.edu/2022/2022-oea-shalini-govil-pai.aspx
6.      https://www.psu.edu/news/engineering/story/eleven-alumni-receive-college-engineerings-highest-honor
7.      https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/seven-prominent-indian-origin-it-industry-women-in-us/shalini-govil-pai/slideshow/20459472.cms
Maverickbl (talk) 18:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maverickbl, it's rather remarkable that your 23rd edit in less than a week as a Wikipedia user is to an AfD discussion! It's not common for new users to find their way here that quickly. That said, you do not appear to understand how the sourcing requirements work for GNG.
  • Variety is not covering Govil-Pai independently, it's promoting one of its own events at which she spoke.
  • The Financial Times article is not actual journalism by the FT; it's a required public posting from YouGov and is thus a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE.
  • As with Variety, The Wrap is promoting one of its events, not providing independent coverage.
  • Penn State is not an independent source; Govil-Pai is an alumna and they are promoting her affiliation with them through this award.
  • The Economic Times article is a single two-paragraph mention of Govil-Pai in a list of other people. Setting aside the WP:NEWSORGINDIA problems, it's certainly not WP:SIGCOV of Govil-Pai.
Hope this helps. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Swamini Brahmaprajnananda Saraswati (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject of this BLP does not meet WP:NBIO, WP:NAUTHOR, nor the WP:GNG. The article was drafted by someone who has a suspect COI but the author has been banned for sockpuppetry, notably for removing maintenance tags. An IP user on my talk page has acknowledged that there isn't even very much published information on the subject. Combined with my BEFORE, I'm not seeing anything that meets our notability requirements for this article that appears to be masquerading as an advertisement. Bobby Cohn (talk) 23:39, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’d like to add my voice in favor of keeping Swamini Brahmaprajnananda Saraswati’s page. Her influence spans across continents, and her teachings on Vedanta have touched the lives of so many people, myself included. While the page might need some edits (and we are working on that), the information is valuable and represents someone who is genuinely notable in the spiritual community. A lot of us are actively contributing to improve the page to meet Wikipedia’s standards, and removing it now would erase a key resource that many find helpful in discovering a true Vedanta guru. I hope this article can be preserved and refined, not deleted. [added this earlier in the talk section] 212.138.196.2 (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This person is notable for her scholarly research in the field of psychology. She is at the forefront identifying similarities/dissimilarities between Western psychology and psychological principles and psychology inherent in classic Indian texts such as the Bhagavad Gita. Her soon to be published PhD dissertation addresses this topic in a unique way. A similar person who does have a Wikipedia page is Professor Rambachan. It is important for Wikipedia to present balanced opinions on major topics such as psychology.Leaving her page in place will allow for contrasting views and opinions from the dominant existing framework.Eoddleifson (talk) 14:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC) Eoddleifson (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
I respectfully oppose the deletion of this page for the following reasons:
Notability: Swamini Brahmaprajnananda Saraswati holds a significant position in the spiritual community and has made contributions that are noteworthy within her field. She is a respected figure in the Parampara, and her work, including published writings and teachings, is relevant to a wide audience. Her influence goes beyond individual students and impacts the larger community of spiritual seekers in India and internationally.
Presence of Reliable Sources: While the page may need further citations, there are multiple reliable sources that can validate her notability. These sources include books, publications, and notable mentions in relevant forums. Her contributions to spiritual teachings and involvement in community services have been acknowledged in respected publications. We will continue improving the citations to comply with Wikipedia's verifiability and notability guidelines.
As an example, her work can be seen in comparison with other Swamis and Swaminis in the Parampara who have established Wikipedia pages (e.g., Swamini Atmaprajnananda Saraswati).
Additionally, published materials such as her books and teachings, and references to her in newspapers and online platforms, validate her presence and importance in the field of spiritual education.
Ongoing Efforts to Improve the Page: The page has already been edited to align with Wikipedia's guidelines, including improvements made to ensure neutrality and adherence to notability criteria. We are open to further editing to meet any specific concerns raised by editors. This includes adding more reliable secondary sources and ensuring that the content follows a neutral point of view.
I request that this page be given more time for improvements and not be deleted hastily. I believe that with the support of the community, we can ensure that this page meets Wikipedia’s standards. 50.245.102.135 (talk) 20:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear, strongly vote to keep the page. On the notability criterion
a. She has additions to research on psychology and Vedanta. Her papers are are published in various offline and online journals. Link - https://www.academia.edu/38993865
b. Her authored and published book on Vedanta has helped multiple students/seekers with raving reviews. Book link - https://amzn.in/d/5V1rdGC
c. She recently was honoured with a doctorate degree (PhD) and her study research thesis is up for publication into a book.
d. She was recently invited by Rick Archer as well for a freewheeling conversation at the acclaimed BATGAP podcast where only select spirituality awakened people are invited. Link - https://youtube.com/watch?v=pgVMzyIpVfQ
Strongly advise to keep the page for many people who benefit from her works. 2.48.241.175 (talk) 06:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I don't find anything in Gscholar, this person doesn't pass academic notability. There are some mentions in GBooks by they talk about the teachings than about the individual... The only green source per Source Highlighter is 16 in the Hindu. Beyond that, there isn't much left for sourcing in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 15:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dejan Crnomarković (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Rejected draft. The included sources are of poor quality, and I couldn't find any others on Google. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lilia Tarawa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP1E only notable in regards to Gloriavale. Most of the stuff not in regards to Gloriavale are from promotional pieces and Tarawa herself. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Most of the sources are neither reliable nor independent. They are full of primary sources written by the subject or from unreliable blogs. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Christianity, and New Zealand. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Women. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There's enough here to show GNG. She's written a book that Martin van Beynen has called "bestselling". It created a lot of publicity, for example, John Campbell interviewed her for 10 min on Radio New Zealand. She gets keynote speaking slots and, whilst that's nothing unusual, it is unusual when Stuff reports on that. She's been invited to give a talk at TEDxChristchurch and it takes quite something to get invited to TEDx. The pieces by Kurt Bayer (NZHerald; based in Christchurch), Eleanor Black (Stuff), and Now to Love (which belongs to Are Media) go into plenty enough depth to fulfil the criteria of three independent reliable sources. And all those sources are in the article already. All up, that's an easy keep. Schwede66 04:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Waikato Times piece is a promotional piece for the business awards. The Now to Love piece is just her interview with Women's Daily. The other Stuff piece is also a promotional piece.
    This is the same for most of the refs, they're either promo pieces or interviews about Gloriavale. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep plenty of media coverage from reliable outlets here to establish GNG. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a lot of media coverage but it is promotional/non-independent.
    Refs 1-4 are Tarawa herself, they shouldn't be used in the article except in limited aboutself uses, let alone go to notability.
    Ref 5, supplied piece from the festival she appeared at.
    Ref 6, women's day interview
    Ref 7 is about Cooper's conviction and just drops a promotion for her book in it... which is odd. Bit of coverage here but not much and it is still in relation to Gloriavale.
    Ref 8 same coverage but more blatantly promotional this time
    Refs 9 and 10 have the exact same wording as refs 7 and 8 which makes me believe this is some promotional thing sent out to papers, that or they just simply copied the Herald, either way the refs adds nothing to notability.
    Ref 11 is a promotional piece.
    Ref 12 is a promotional interview
    Ref 13 is an interview
    Ref 14 is another interview that involves promoting the book
    Refs 15-16 are reprints of Herald refs mentioned earlier
    Ref 17 uses same wording as the other promotional pieces
    Ref 18 is a promotional interview
    Ref 19 is a promotional interview from women's day and the same ref as 6.
    Ref 20 isn't promotional or an interview but very brief coverage (3 lines) as part of her grandfather's death
    Ref 21 is an interview
    Ref 22 is from Tarawa herself
    Ref 23 is a promotional piece for the Matamata business awards
    Ref 24 is a broken url but it is a very brief interview
    Refs 25-27 are interviews
    Ref 28 is promotional
    Ref 29 opinion piece and it provides little coverage anyhow
    Ref 30 is brief coverage of the book
    Ref 31 is dead but appears to be a blog from an unreliable source
    Ref 32 is about someone else's death
    Ref 33 is the exact same as ref 32.
    Ref 34 is the same as 9, 9 is presumably a reprint of it. Contains the exact same sentences used in the other promotional pieces
    Ref 35 is about Gloriavale but suddenly just drops in the same promotional content about Tarawa's book seen before.
    Ref 36 is a radio interview, not even an RS.
    Ref 37 is a podcast interview.
    Ref 38 is a promotional piece for some event she was invited to
    Ref 39 is another piece on Gloriavale that just suddenly includes the same promotional content as else where, it is really odd and I cannot see a reason for it other than being sponsored/paid for it
    So yes, there is a lot of media coverage, but little of it is independent, most of it is from the same source, and plenty of it is promotional. The fact that two identical articles are used as a reference right after each other just looks like COI/Paid editing with refbombing so it looks notable. The user who wrote most of this article is now blocked for copyvios but from looking at his contributions I think he may have been a paid editor. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per Schwede66.-Gadfium (talk) 23:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete, or maybe easier, rescope (retitle) the article to represent coverage of her book. [On reflection, “delete” doesn’t accurately represent my opinion, and I am neutral. 23:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)] None of the sources appear to be doing any fact-checking, and are covering her story as though it were independent reporting, so functionally what they are covering is her story, and most closely her book. Ultimately, media coverage of her herself most resembles something like coverage WP:VICTIM, where as an individual she isn’t that notable, but for the fact that she was the centre of some event, and then wrote it all down and sold the story. Reading that guideline: Outside of her book, or her story, obviously there isn’t some higher-level event-centred article to incorporate her into, and so if we are to just keep the article as is (not an absolutely awful outcome, per my “weak” !vote), her testimony, which should have lead to an article about her own life and experiences, just becomes a page about her. Not optimal, given how much we have to rely on her as primary sourcing, but there is clearly secondary reporting on her talking about her story/book. — HTGS (talk) 23:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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