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Michael, I couldn't find time to ascertain actually how old this guy is and when the F did he make his flight. In fact, survival-concerned Ukrainians have forgotten his heroic deed very soon. Would you correct these holes? Pryvit, AlexPU—Preceding undated comment added by AlexPU (talkcontribs) 15:36, 12 February 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Page move due to misspelled name

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Requested move 20 November 2024

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Leonid KadeniukLeonid Kadenyuk – The article itself constantly refers to Kadenyuk. "Leonid Kadenyuk" is his name on Britannica and in several sources. "Leonid Kadenyuk" gets 5,740 results on Google while "Leonid Kadeniuk" gets 2,830. The Y seems to be the correct spelling. It also follows the custom of similar names like Igor Kornelyuk. Evedawn99 (talk) 03:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte 👸♥ 07:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Leonid Kadeniuk was Ukrainian (born in Klishkivtsi, died in Kyiv) and his surname appears as "Kadeniuk" in Kyiv Post. In the initial several years of Ukrainian independence (Kadeniuk's space mission was in 1997), Ukrainian subjects continued to be transliterated into English using Russian transliteration forms (Kiev was not moved to Kyiv until September 2020 and it took until July 2022 for OdessaOdesa). The example within the nomination of Igor Kornelyuk is inapplicable since his name and the names of other Russians listed in English Wikipedia are and should be transliterated in their Russian forms. There continues to be much inconsistency and even some English-language Ukrainian sources have depicted subject's surname as "Kadenyuk" but, as shown in the nomination, the form "Kadeniuk" has the considerable number of 2,830 Google results, although results for "Kadenyuk" do show higher numbers, reaching further back into the past. However, the modernized Ukrainian transliteration of the surname is indeed "Kadeniuk" and has been since this article's creation in February 2005. —Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 21:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Kadenyuk isn't "the correct spelling", and in fact there is no singular "correct" spelling at all. If using the national (official) transliteration: Kadeniuk; if using BGN/PCGN transliteration (used in the UN before 2019): Kadenyuk. So according to the current official spelling, Kadeniuk is preferred, however this system was developed relatively recently so more likely than not his passport used some other spelling (probably Kadenyuk). Of course, the Wikipedia policy (WP:OFFICIALNAMES) is that page titles should first of all be recognizable, but whether the name is official is generally not as important. Some examples of common names not using the national transliteration: Lesya Ukrainka (instead of Lesia), Volodymyr Zelenskyy (instead of Zelenskyi), Vitali Klitschko (instead of Vitalii Klychko). Shwabb1 taco 15:51, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]